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Thanks for this Ken, it's a very useful article. I was looking at Air Fryers the other day as everyone is singing their praises. Not sure whether to get one, and if so, which one? There are so many to confuse my final choice. What are the plus and minus as you see it?

Blessings

AP

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OK - now we are close to Thanksgiving - my favorite holiday P&S - let me mention two or three more now.

1. Charlotte Pipe & Foundry - "if a man wanted to better understand Dante's inferno - that was a good place for that!

2. Oh shit - a place in Tarboro - I say no more - that place was even more sad then the place in Elkin - textile business lost.

3. OK, just came to mind on the fly - deep in a Milliken site when the "Lady Engineer" there practically cried in front of me and me as well.....oh man......I don't care for narrative pushing - I just want to make product.

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there was a place past Laurinburg - a bit past Lumberton - where they were barely hanging on making fine fabric for post office employees if memory serves - but that place was also nothing but a shadow of what it once was - all over North Carolina I witnessed this first hand. But it would be easy to get some of this sort of industry going local - that I was I think - and I'm not sure I concur that "money supply" always has to be increasing - something bout that seems biased in my "local" mind.

Ken

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It is biased Ken. The money supply only needs to increase in a fiat debt world, sound money is stable and reacts to user demands (cash) as BOOM keeps stressing.

Have a great day at Thanksgiving.

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Now you know I have a background in Chemical Engineering - you may not know literally ALL of the industrial facilities I have worked at and visited collectively - uh....there are very few I have not had direct involvement within. Let me tell a few memorable:

1. I've already mentioned elsewhere the incredible textile manufacturing facilities I did so much work with in Wagram, NC and Clemson, SC areas - they were WestPoint Stevens in the day. I've been to so many textile facilities - I know it from start to finish.

2. Some "glass-production" facilities stand strong in my memory including one was called "Libby-Owens-Stevens" in the day - near the Wagram facility - Laurinburg, NC - the site remains in operation I think - they make architectural glass. Oh Lordy - you wouldn't believe the one time I went to a place in SC makes fiberglass - not that is amazing - the huge kilns in operation there.

3. I've been to just about all of the polymer making large-scale facilities in the southeast us of a - most of them are shadows of themselves - they made polyester - many forms - nylon tis called - many forms of that as well - cellulose acetate - close to my heart - and many more - big plants these were - serious operations there - and some great folks as well.

4. It hurts my heart to talk about all the Masterbatch sites (plastic-coloring) I've been too - all over the country - I won't forget the "liquid" site local in Mooresville, nor the one in Albion, the one in West Chicago, the one in Minneapolis, Toronto, Holden, nor the one in Lewiston.

5. Oil Service facilities - a bunch in Tejas - some in California - some elsewhere - they are a dime a dozen - but the ones in Louisiana are better.

6. Place that made CFC's in the ole days - that is some complex halogenated chemistry - and I remember one time they asked me to visit a site where the literally made hydroflouric acid - now that was impressive. It was in Louisiana - a hub of chemistry along with east Tejas area.

7. So many more - really - I went to a place where the make the catalysts for chemical production - been there a bunch of times - glad I don't have to go there again.....but that is another story entirely.

8. One close to my heart was a place local - I was their main helper with Environmental issues - they made the break shoes for railroad cars - that place was pretty cool.....I think it is still around and I helped them with their ambient air dispersion modeling demonstration - I also came to their aid when the EPA was hounding them with potential excess regulation - or at least possibly - but being I had direct experience with that - we all arrived on a rule to minimize hexane emissions (that is a hazardous air pollutant - a "HAP" tis called - you know P&S....) - anywho - we all met at the table - both the regulators and folks at the site and myself - and we hashed a fair rule to make sure emissions were kept in check properly.

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So - with all that said, you can imagine I've seen many different processes - thought a lot about chemistry and kinetics and thermodynamics and energy efficiency. I think somebody should make an "air fryer" that recirculates the hot exhaust air and uses that to heat up the air being "pulled in" - more than likely they already do this to an extent and I'm sure their are units that are more efficient, but a simple test would be - place your hand in the exhaust air - and then decide - is energy being wasted?

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You know P&S - my wife tells me - I could "talk" somebody's head off?

What U think?

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Yes Ken, excellent discourse, talk away old son.

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P&S - hope you are well.

I enjoy cooking with an air fryer and we have gotten good use out of it. As for the plusses and minuses I would say this:

(Plus)

1. Food cooked in lieu of using "hot oil" (or similar) will have fewer calories and possibly could be considered "more healthy".

2. It is pretty convenient and can result in nice crispy food....

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(Minus)

1. They are not particularly "energy efficient" given they exhaust "hot air" continuously which takes away much of the energy that goes into the device in contrast to frying in "oil" where most of the energy is in the initial heating and then little energy is wasted relatively speaking.

2. One has to be careful not to put "too much" in the chamber - otherwise it will not cook evenly and won't be as good as other options. I usually periodically shake what I'm cooking to help assure everything is relatively evenly cooked.

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A few additional thoughts:

1. When we use it in the winter - I usually keep it inside - that way the heat exhausted at least stays in the home. In the summer - I use it outside, and in fact in the summer using it inside if you also have air conditioning is a "double-whammy" energy wise......(wasteful really....).

2. While the units are not difficult to clean, it is important to clean them regularly because they typically will leave some residual behind....

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Hope that helps P&S - I think one can purchase a pretty good unit for around $100 (I'm sure some are more and some less...) and if space is "tight" in the kitchen, they can be a nice supplemental way to cook.

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Regards,

Ken

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Thanks so much Ken, you have given me good guidance my friend. I will look again and test some before buying on line (much cheaper in SA). I'll let you know how I get on.

Blessings

AP

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Hey get this - we thought it might be for the "game" today - Panthers versus Chiefs - but I can find no evidence of that presently.....and I'm told (I heard it) there were four helicopters flying over today in close formation - they were very close by - I could feel em.....I could tell - that was unusual.

Here is all I can find so far - anybody know more - please share:

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When four helicopters fly together in a coordinated pattern, it's called a "formation flight," and is most commonly seen in military operations where multiple aircraft fly close together for tactical reasons, like coordinated maneuvers or to maximize firepower during combat missions; this formation with four helicopters could sometimes be referred to as a "finger-four" formation, similar to fighter jet formations.

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Apparently - per a witness account, they were in "diamond formation" and greyish in tint.....that is all I know so far - any more info anybody could provide would be appreciated.....

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Just another day at the Homestead I reckon - another day of fries and wings - and love strong!

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Ken

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